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Subscriptions4Less Rip off
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Apr 13, 2008 Subscriptions4Less complaint by Sara |
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Page 1 of 2 I bought a subscription from them off Ebay on December 19, 2007 and they have yet to fulfill my order. The funny thing is that I emailed them and they responded and said that they would resubmit my order.They had forgotten to submit my order. I have paid for this and if they don't give me what I paid for, it is considered fraud and I will let as many people know about this as I can. I will also file many complaints online and let agencies know about it. Ebay does not seem to want to help with this and I find that appalling. It's like they support fraud. I have sent them at least 3 emails recently and they will not respond.
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1. Written by Dawn M., on 09-08-2008 02:13
I just wrote another email to paypal's customer service w/a list of ebayers ripped-off between june and present (based upon seller's feedback). Most of them stated they contacted paypal and got a refund. I'm sure there are many (like me) who couldn't leave feedback for numerous reasons (as stated in my prev. msg, the dutch BIN auction was cancelled after I won/paid so there's no auction # for me to leave feedback for...) and that didn't/couldn't get a refund due to too much time passing.
I posted this in a few other complaint msg boards but I'm reposting it here so as many ppl as possible can see it and benefit from it.
Here is the list I sent Paypal tonight, which covers feedback from June thru present. I asked them exactly how many ppl need to complain about a seller, request refunds, etc before they open an investigation. We'll see what they say. Here's the list:
Negative feedback
1) No renewal of subscription per US Weekly, No response from Seller, PP Refunded
Buyer: bevinh782 Jun-30-08 15:59
3yr US WEEKLY - Subscription **BLOWOUT** (#110246346239) US $19.98 View Item
2) RIP OFF ! BUYER GONE, NO WARNING, NO MAGAZINES - HAD TO FIGHT W/PP TO GET $ BACK
Buyer: smittenkitten89 Jun-26-08 06:49
3yr US WEEKLY - Subscription **BLOWOUT** (#110246346239) US $19.98 View Item
3) Never recieved magazines and sent 2 emails and no response back.
Buyer: alli78 Jun-25-08 09:35
1yr OK! MAGAZINE + 1yr US WEEKLY - Subscription (#310043603935) US $13.98 View Item
4) Mag. never arrived after 7 wks. No response to any of my emails-paypal refunded
Buyer: therewasalittlebird Jun-22-08 18:51
3yr US WEEKLY - Subscription **BLOWOUT** (#110246346239) US $19.98 View Item
5) Never received magazine - no response from seller - Paypal refunded.
Buyer: faye1218 Jun-15-08 08:16
3yr US WEEKLY - Subscription **BLOWOUT** (#110246346239) US $19.98 View Item
6) almost 8wks-no mags-no communication-my children are devastated! paypal refunded
Buyer: 6littlestitches Jun-14-08 09:17
Follow-up by 6littlestitches (Jun-25-08 10:15):
STILL NO MAGS- now seller has no items for sale- wonder why????? stay away!
2yr ZOOBOOKS - Subscription [NO S/H] (#110245720625) US $24.98 View Item
7) Never received order. Contact was unsuccessful.
Buyer: agrotnes Jun-09-08 20:46
1yr OK! MAGAZINE + 1yr US WEEKLY - Subscription (#310043603935) US $13.98
 Received Today but never received Astronomy sub from 02/26, no communication!!!
Buyer: tschneeibm Jun-06-08 12:28
4yr READER'S DIGEST - Subscription **SALE** (#31004348445 US $19.98 View Item
------------ Seller had replied to all of these on July 29th stating:
* Reply by subscriptions4less (Jul-29-08 20:45):
Ebay removed our listings and wouldn't allow access to our account.
--------- However that doesn't explain why their email account is inactive or why they couldn't fwd. our information to the publishers so we'd actually get our subscriptions... Or even why they couldn't EMAIL us (or some other form of contact) to let us know there'd be a delay. Paypal would have the address and auction information necessary for them to submit our info, so being locked out of Ebay is no excuse.
For anyone who has been ripped of by these guys, if you paid via paypal, even if it's past 45 days, even if you got a refund already -- CONTACT THEM AGAIN and ask them to open an investigation into Subscriptions4less. The more people that complain, the more likely they'll refund those of us who were ripped off, even if it's past their 45 day mark.
I hope this is helpful to those of you in the same situation.
Paypal rep Ralph Vernon sent me a reply on Thursday 8/7 that stated (in part):
> We do reserve the right to reopen any claim for investigation within 180
> calendar days if we receive multiple complaints about a particular
> seller. We will contact you by email if this is the case.
Good luck everyone.
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2. Written by Dawn M., on 07-08-2008 04:00
THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF by this seller -- if you paid thru paypal, do a quick search in your account for the transaction # and contact paypal immediately. Let them know that you heard many people were complaining about fraud from this seller and if enough complaints were rec'd, they'd open an investigation even past the 45 day mark, up to 180 days after the auction ended/items paid. -- A Paypal cust. svc. rep told me that via email earlier tonight. - DLM
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3. Written by D.M., on 24-07-2008 01:53
On a side note, I looked up the # listed above in reverse phone # search & found this:
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(917) 536-6503
Type: Cell Phone
Provider: Omnipoint Communications
Location: New York City, NY -------------
Interesting that it's a cell #. I'll be trying it tomorrow to see if I can reach anyone.
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4. Written by contact info - phone # & addre, on 24-07-2008 01:05
Can anyone tell us whether they ARE selling on ebay now under a new name?? I saw contact info for them in another thread (phone # and address) but not an email address.
That info is:
Subscriptions4less
Phone: 917-536-6503
PO Box 141150
Staten Island, New York, 10314
U.S.A.
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5. Written by Joan, on 30-06-2008 21:31
I got ripped off also. I ordered in early May, my subscription was not renewed and my emails through ebay were not answered. I filed with Paypal just within the 45 day limit and got my money back. What is the scammer's new name on ebay?
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6. Written by Stephanie, on 29-06-2008 12:22
I purchased a subscription for my son in February. Have not received it and when I try to email them it comes back as not valid account. 
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7. Written by Sonja, on 17-06-2008 12:26
Sam, on 25-05-2008 22:45, can you post the new name under which they're now selling on eBay? Thank you. We ordered two subscriptions that never came and our emails to them come back as undeliverable. javascript:ac_smilie(' ')
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8. Written by Pete, on 02-06-2008 00:58
I've bought 3 different subscriptions in the past from them, Never a problem until this past Feb. I bought a subscription to Scrye magazine for $20, waited the 100 days and NO Mags. I tried to contact Subscriptions4less and did get a short reply but never another email and no mags.
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9. Written by Sam, on 25-05-2008 22:45
I used to purchase my mags from them but my last order has yet to be renewed. They are now selling under a new name on ebay and have cleared out their listings under subscriptions4less. Good seller gone bad!!!!!!
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10. Written by Kristie, on 23-05-2008 08:18
I have been buying from them for years and have not had any problems. I have been very happy with them.
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